tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post960957052495170829..comments2023-11-14T05:56:54.066-05:00Comments on MVM News: SIMPLY PUT? WE DON'T NEED AN NBA TEAMLouisville News and Politicshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06304053439681295941noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post-12199962307272405672011-02-26T12:04:49.719-05:002011-02-26T12:04:49.719-05:00you really need to read the book. I'm no JBM ...you really need to read the book. I'm no JBM fan, and I don't agree with everything he says in the book. He does, however, give interesting and credible information, and he - like you - is very critical of the powers that be in this community. I think you'll find some of his positions very congruant with yours.<br /><br />You stand more to gain by reading his book and then challenging - as it is your unilateral dismissal of the book without even reading it takes away from your credibility. It is an easy read and would not take very long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post-34174743156951485982011-02-26T10:18:16.361-05:002011-02-26T10:18:16.361-05:00Not sure how many families in Louisville can affor...Not sure how many families in Louisville can afford roughly 10 grand a year for games and I definitely don't buy the argument that they didn't come here because ex U of L President John Shumaker was having an affair. That is tabloid journalism at best.<br /><br />If we make that argument then why would they come here now with Ramsey and all of his messes including the Robert Felner scandals.<br /><br />Again a self aggrandizing book by Miller filled with substandard arguments like this are not factual ones proving we can support an NBA team.<br /><br />They didn't come here because they know we can't support it financially. That is business. If they come here now it is only because the NBA itself is desperate for venues as their teams continue to lose money and so do the taxpayers.<br /><br />Thanks for writing.Louisville News and Politicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06304053439681295941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post-10319858629780618202011-02-25T17:02:03.866-05:002011-02-25T17:02:03.866-05:00Miller's book has the true reasons the Hornets...Miller's book has the true reasons the Hornets wound up in New Orleans instead of Louisville. A college president who was more interested in finding a new job near his mistress (she had moved jobs after they got caught at UofL) rather than keeping his promises to control his athletic director. A just-signed college basketball coach who said every UofL all-American played his home games in Freedom Hall and as long as he was coach, they'd NEVER play in a downtown arena(!). Mayor Dave Armstrong. Even so, Louisville had a binding agreement (including a plan to have a NBA-subsidized Muhammad Ali Museum & Conflict Resolution Center included as part of the downtown arena for the team to play in) on the way to be signed in the governor's mansion before the whole deal fell apart.<br />BTW, most families don't go to 41 NBA home games; they split season tickets with other families/friends.Troyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01656409793635599405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post-15081319969767928282011-02-24T21:58:52.544-05:002011-02-24T21:58:52.544-05:00Miller's book also praises Dan Johnson repeate...Miller's book also praises Dan Johnson repeatedly, any coincidence that Miller is getting all this Council money now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post-71715493411996055972011-02-24T08:40:01.090-05:002011-02-24T08:40:01.090-05:00In all honesty I wouldn't really enjoy reading...In all honesty I wouldn't really enjoy reading Miller's book. based on histroy and his involvement in wanting an NBA team I am failry sure it is a self serving book not necessarily looking at ALL facets.<br /><br />Anyone can dispute facts with yep different facts. I stand by mine and will continue to contend we cannot afford nor do we need an NBA team.<br /><br />I have seen anecdotal "demographic" data in regards to this issue but disagree with teh findings. I have not seen any forward argument yet based with facts that would support the conclusions.<br /><br />Thanks for writing.Louisville News and Politicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06304053439681295941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post-68689692444259293332011-02-23T21:54:11.616-05:002011-02-23T21:54:11.616-05:00Miller's book - Airball - includes a lot of st...Miller's book - Airball - includes a lot of statistical info on demographics and why this region can support an NBA franchise. If you have not read it you should; and then consider commenting/debating this idea on the merits of the information he presents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post-42580870038588280782011-02-22T15:40:07.537-05:002011-02-22T15:40:07.537-05:00With all of the talk about the Yum Center being ne...With all of the talk about the Yum Center being needed and for the U of L program, now they are talking about renovating Freedom Hall one has to question why not the Yum Center. Seems like a lot of money is to be wasted on having two basketball facilities in the same city. <br /><br />But here's the real point. Why is it that certain people and certain groups get subsidies for their businesses just like the NBA teams often get breaks and subsidies for their business? Secondly, has anyone seen how many farm subsidies are given out by the USDA and Conservation programs. I know of some farmers in the country getting 100k in farm subsidies and turning around and you see a 30 or 40k truck running the roads. As a small business, I don't get that sort of tax subsidy from the taxpayers. Yet if I was certain companies or certain people, I could probably get that money. Do I think its right? No. I think its letting taxpayers subsidize businesses to where the taxes are raised on everyone so a few can make the profits. Interesting how certain groups get tax free assistance to maintain their businesses and lifestyles but the average small businessman doesn't and is mortgaged to the hilt while the Cordishes and the rest of these new service industry jobs are created downtown with free taxpayer money. At least free to the owners of these bars and restaurants. If one talks about private business at least they shouldn't be running around with their hands out and government giving them freebies.<br /><br />Yet whats even more strange is to hear those receiving their goodies complain about other groups getting welfare, food stamps, or other government benefits. What is good for the goose is good for the ganderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post-15770542408316797892011-02-21T18:09:58.885-05:002011-02-21T18:09:58.885-05:00From the CJ: Rick Pitino says the NBA would be luc...From the CJ: Rick Pitino says the NBA would be lucky to have Louisville, but it would be expensive for a family of four to have season tickets and would compete with Louisville football and basketball. Kentucky is a poor state he said.<br /><br />And who could argue with that? We simply do not have the funds to support an NBA team, either with our tax dollars or our personal wallets.<br /><br />Whiel some reference SINGLE events, such as a concert or other type entertainment,a single event is a far cry from being able to afford something like season tickets.<br /><br />Many may be able to afford a one time one game experience but to support an NBA team full time requires thousands of dollars a year and that just isn't realistic for most Louisvillians.<br /><br />Thanks for writing folks!Louisville News and Politicshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06304053439681295941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post-86230480716841157592011-02-21T18:02:56.152-05:002011-02-21T18:02:56.152-05:00NBA tickets are PRICED TOO HIGH!
It seems the Aver...NBA tickets are PRICED TOO HIGH!<br />It seems the Average Price for an NBA ticket is about $48.<br />Source: <a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5846998" rel="nofollow">ESPN: NBA average ticket price: $48 per game - Nov. 2010</a><br /><br />(BTW, Comedian Ron White & Horseshoe Casino in Indiana are getting $54+ for a 1.5 hour show! And Jeff Foxworthy & friends are getting $60 at the YUM! Center in Louisville.)<br /><br />So take a 4 person family.<br />$192 on NBA tickets.<br />$40 on snacks & drinks.<br />$10 on parking.<br /><br />That's a whopping $242 out of a family's budget for about 3 hours of entertainment.<br /><br />Obviously this whole NBA team idea is not going to be affordable to Joe Six-pack. But ol' Joe can apply for one of the minimum wage jobs that will be created!<br /><br />Gawd, I love corporate America!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post-29610480051959801522011-02-21T10:01:00.693-05:002011-02-21T10:01:00.693-05:00I have very mixed feelings about bringing an NBA t...I have very mixed feelings about bringing an NBA team to our community. I am an avid U of L fan and often attend the basketball and football games, I am also fan of the Cinci Reds and yes, the Bengals, my brother and I have season tickets to both teams and make the short drive up I-71 frequently. While we are there we often see neighbors, co-workers, and friends attending the games. My ex was originally from St. Louis and was a huge fan of the Cardinals and the Rams we would make long weekends out of those trips and I know we were not alone in this community. I realize the aforementioned teams are MLB and NFL teams but I know lots of people who drive up to Indianapolis to watch the Pacers, and the Colts for that matter. If people are willing to drive to Cincinnati, St. Louis, and Indianapolis to watch those pro teams why wouldn't people be willing to support a pro team in their own, I know I would and I don't think I would be the only one. <br /><br />Also, I can't recall where I read the statistic but more officially licensed NBA apparel is sold in Louisville than in any other major city WITHOUT their own team. <br /><br />However, I do agree with the points you have made here on your blog and on your podcast about the tickets being out of reach for some people in our community, especially with the current economic climate. However, people seem to come up with the money to see Kid Rock, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, and the Eagles.<br /><br />I also wonder if we as a community aren't supporting the orcharstra or the ballet will we as a community support a pro team. I think we will but you never know. If you look at high schools attendance to sporting events is far greater than that of concerts, recitals or plays. <br /><br />Personally, I would like to see us bring a NBA team to Louisville, but my opinion on this issue is based more on emotion and anecdotal information rather than hard facts. I will say, that this is a tricky issue with a lot of gray area. It should be given a fair honest evaluation filled with spirited debate, where all sides are heard and I don't really see that at the moment, as your commentary is really the only outlet giving the opposite opinion of Messrs Miller and Johnson. I look forward to reading and hearing more on this topic. Thanks for making me think.Jacob Conwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17347468961202212852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post-74509950418832094292011-02-21T09:43:51.910-05:002011-02-21T09:43:51.910-05:00You are trying to have a rationale conversation wi...You are trying to have a rationale conversation with Dan Johnson - that's problem #1. Problem #2 is that this guy has been in office for 20 years and is a supposed leader in this community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7157051350798517553.post-36668120483612104912011-02-20T16:46:23.866-05:002011-02-20T16:46:23.866-05:00This news article shows why Metro Councilman Dan J...This news article shows why Metro Councilman Dan Johnson is so out of touch. We have posted a web link to Kentuckiana GrassRoots Radio today.Clint Hardyhttp://www.blogtalkradio.com/ky-grassroots-radionoreply@blogger.com